Soul conversations — Michelle Obama Podcast [Guest: Barack Obama]
I love a good conversation, talking about humanity, behaviors and society and when there are some people with real and meaningful topics it is so comforting.
In this episode Michelle and Barack Obama talk a lot about the importance of early childhood, education and the role of families and communities in the making of responsible individuals for a healthy society. It is a nurturing food for what is imprinted in the soul :)
Below just some parts of the conversation, for the full podcast click here
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA “ I think I figured out once I got to school that if I am chasing after my own success, that somehow, I am going to end up alone and unhappy.”
FIRST LADY MICHELLE OBAMA — Here you were, you could have done anything because of your academic achievement. Because you were the number one student at Harvard Law Review, the first Black President of the Harvard Law Review, top of your class…
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA — So, but the thing that a Harvard education gave me, the real ticket that I punched wasn’t to chase as much money as I wanted. What I purchased was enough credentials and security that I could go do the crazy things I wanted to do in terms of working in neighborhoods, going in to politics, all that. Knowing that I had enough of a floor beneath me that I was going to be okay.
“ I think I figured out once I got to school that if I am chasing after my own success, that somehow, I am going to end up alone and unhappy.” — PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA — I think that culturally, we become much more focused on stuff and much less focused on relationships and family. And part of being an adult…part of being a citizen is you give something up.…
FIRST LADY MICHELLE OBAMA — “– So instead of that, we have — you can have it all. You know, that’s the philosophy. You know even when I talk to young mothers its, “how do I have it all?” You know, or young families…Because the motto has become not that you sacrifice but you should be able to have it all. And how do you get it? And if you’re not getting it then something is wrong. And I always joke it’s like — that was the opposite of how we were brought up. You were never supposed to have it all. In fact, if you had it all, you were being greedy. Cause if you have it all, that meant that someone didn’t have anything
You were never supposed to have it all. In fact, if you had it all, you were being greedy. Cause if you have it all, that meant that someone didn’t have anything — FIRST LADY MICHELLE OBAMA
FIRST LADY MICHELLE OBAMA — But that’s what we’re teaching young people. You should, you know, have a career and you should earn a lot of money. You should be fulfilled. You should have your passion. You shouldn’t have to sacrifice that much. You should have it all.
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA — And you now have this sense of kind of a cut-throat competition…
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If you liked the parts of the podcast go check the full episode, it’s worth it —
I hope you enjoy
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Alessandra Fonseca is a Latin American woman living in Australia, experiencing the joys and challenges of being a migrant women. She is a People & Change consultant and a Montessori teacher with an authentic passion for the scientific study of humankind. Alessandra believes that the transformation of society and a best future for the workforce will be achieved through the reform of education and a more conscious leadership. (Psychological studies show that thinking and speaking of oneself in the third person increases wisdom and has a positive effect on one’s mental state — ahaha)
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